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Grammar Question

Something I've been seeing in a lot of writing lately... using 'who' instead of 'whom'...

Is that new? Has that developed like that in the last years or decades?

Example: "...the girl who I’ve spent more time with than with my own family..."

Shouldn't that be. "...the girl *whom*..."?

Another one: "...there were people in this world who he could fight with..."

Again, I keep supplying "whom" instead of "who".

Anyone willing to clear that up for me? ^_____^;

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sharona1x2
Dec. 17th, 2010 08:55 pm (UTC)
As far as I know, whom is the correct word, but many people don't speak using it. I know I catch myself using the wrong word when I speak, but usually use the right one when I write.

I'm also old school. I still use words like knelt (instead of kneeled), dreamt (instead of dreamed), etc.

Edited at 2010-12-17 08:56 pm (UTC)
ravensilver
Dec. 17th, 2010 11:09 pm (UTC)
Ah...

So I wasn't that far off, was I? It just somehow 'sounded' wrong when I was reading it...

*sigh*

Yes, there are a lot of words like that. To be honest, I also find myself slipping... >.>
ardwynna_m
Dec. 17th, 2010 08:56 pm (UTC)
'Whom' seems to be going the way of 'thee' and 'thine'. That's just my impression of it. Nobody seems to spell 'practise' with the 's' anymore either.
ravensilver
Dec. 17th, 2010 11:12 pm (UTC)
*big sigh*

I've noticed a lot of things like that. And no one seems to take exception... So I *really* wasn't sure anymore, whether this was right or not...

>.>
kracken
Dec. 18th, 2010 11:23 am (UTC)
I think you're right about that. Language is always fluid.
amarissia
Dec. 17th, 2010 09:18 pm (UTC)
Generally, this is one of those rules of grammar that even native speakers aren't saure about. I don't really know if I even use it correctly. The safest thing to do is always put a word like "to" or "with" in front of it, make it clear that the "who(m)" is the direct object.

Let me know if you come across any specific examples, and I'll tell what sounds more natural.
ravensilver
Dec. 17th, 2010 11:11 pm (UTC)
That's why those two examples up there kind of... threw me. I kept changing the sentence around and putting the 'with' in front of the 'who' and it just sounded... wrong.

I don't remember where it was, but just recently I read something that was *full* of this. I really have to go look for it, because it totally grated on my writing nerve.

I guess I'm too old-fashioned...
sunhawk16
Dec. 18th, 2010 12:57 pm (UTC)
I think it's one of those things that can come off sounding... 'high brow'? Almost nobody actually uses it in conversation anymore, or you just get eyes rolled at you, so it's just falling by the wayside.
ravensilver
Dec. 18th, 2010 03:11 pm (UTC)
Ah...

I think I'm getting old... >.
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